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Can the Indie-Minded Kristen Stewart Become a Box Office Star After Twilight Fades?
NYMag.com Kristen Stewart is the lead actress in one of the biggest Hollywood franchises ever, and if she seems caught off guard by her massive fame (and she does, often), she's not as shocked as Jodie Foster. "I am surprised she is an actress," Foster recently told E!. When Stewart was just 11, she played Foster's daughter in the David Fincher thriller Panic Room, and "I didn't think [stardom was] where she was headed," Foster confessed. "And even though her mom said, 'No, she really, really wants to be an actress,' I felt like, 'Nah, she won't because she really doesn't have the stereotypical personality."
What Foster means, of course, is that we're used to seeing our female movie stars a certain way: bubbly, ambitious, and willing to do hard time in run-of-the-mill romantic comedies if it eventually leads to eight-figure paychecks and one prestige picture that nets them an Oscar nod. To say the least, the 20-year-old Stewart has circumvented that route on her path to the top, but what comes next for such an unconventional starlet? Does Kristen Stewart actually want to be a movie star, and what kind of post-Twilight prospects does she have? Vulture asked industry insiders those questions to answer that Star Market perennial: If Kristen Stewart were a stock, should you buy, sell, or hold?
Stock History: Before landing her transformative role in the 2008 film Twilight, Stewart had carved out a career as a promising child actress. Aside from a few bids at the mainstream (it may be hard to believe the super-serious Stewart ever starred in a comedy called Catch That Kid, and yet it happened), Stewart spent adolescence honing her indie bona fides in films like The Safety of Objects, Undertow, Fierce People, and In the Land of Women. Her offhandedly sexy performance in Sean Penn's Into the Wild put her at the top of several directors' wish lists, including Catherine Hardwicke's, who cast Stewart in what would become a five-film Twilight saga.
Since then, Twilight has taken up most of Stewart's time, though she did squeeze in an acclaimed performance as Joan Jett in the little-seen rock biopic The Runaways. Several of the indie films Stewart shot prior to the release of Twilight have been trickling out since—this weekend's Welcome to the Rileys, where she plays a foul-mouthed stripper, is the last of them—but by and large, Stewart's been too wrapped up in Bella Swan to truly test her mettle outside the franchise.
Peers: Stewart leads a pack of under-25 actresses like Mia Wasikowska (21), Emma Stone (21), Carey Mulligan (25), and the surging, similar Rooney Mara (24). She's closely followed by The Lovely Bones star Saoirse Ronan (16), her Twilight colleague Dakota Fanning (also 16), and Dianna Agron (24) from Glee.
Quote: If you need more proof about how wildly Stewart's career swings from vampire blockbusters to the art house, here it is: She'll earn $25 million for doing the final two Twilight films, but for Welcome to Rileys, she settled for scale plus 10 (meaning, the SAG-negotiated minimum weekly payment plus the agent's usual 10% commission, which is also picked up by the production).
Market Value: In Twilight films, Stewart has earned numbers that are simply incomparable to any other actress; it's rare enough that any Hollywood franchise would be female-led, let alone one that routinely pulls in almost $700 million worldwide with each installment. The question is, can Stewart bring any of her mainstream appeal to her smaller films? So far, she hasn't been able to; Adventureland and The Yellow Handkerchief were both underperformers, and for all the heavy hype and paparazzi attention that her casting brought to The Runaways, the movie's wide release was scuttled before it hit the $4 million mark.
What Hollywood Thinks: As an actress, Stewart is well liked and in high demand, but as a movie star, people aren't so sure. "I think she’s great," said one top agent we spoke to. "The taste of Stewart, and really, of all these girls who are her peers, their tastes are [movies like] Welcome to the Rileys. They have a depth that, at this age, is highly unusual. For a while there, there was nothing interesting happening with this age group: You had all these girls—Lindsay Lohan, Hillary Duff, Amanda Bynes—you'd see them look in a mirror, and you'd know there was nothing looking back at them. You can almost tell there's nothing going on underneath. That's what Miley Cyrus is doing now with The Family Bond at Universal: 'A CIA agent discovers he has a teenage daughter when she shows up in the middle of a mission!' You do these overly commercial movies, and then you're out of gas at age 24."
But is Stewart going to do any commercial movies outside of the Twilight franchise? "It's hard to say," admitted a manager. "She doesn't appear to be funny, so she better be genuinely able to deliver when it comes to drama. Most women become stars through romantic comedies, so if you can't or won't work in that area, you need to be either extraordinarily talented [or] work in drama. And then, even Nicole Kidman burned out. So unless you're Kate Winslet, too indie is not the way to go."
Many of the insiders we spoke to commented on Stewart's famously press-shy personality. Though some of her reticence is understandable, given the overwhelming interest in her relationship with Twilight costar Robert Pattinson, one publicist claimed that the enthusiasm gap between Stewart and her more press-savvy compatriots is hurting her.
"My gut is that she's not done much to make new fans," said the publicist. "She doesn't seem to be happy or excited about what she's doing. She always seems very disinterested, and she projects this image of someone who's grungy, shy, closed off. I think the Twilight fans don't really care, but when this series ends, I'm not sure what she does. She needs to find a way to balance the authenticity she seeks to embody by softening up a bit. Who's going to stand by her after the Twilight movies come out? What they're doing [with her PR] is sort of a dangerous game: She's the 'Queen of the Tweens!' What happens outside of that genre?"
The Analysis: The agent we spoke to thinks Stewart should take a cue from her old Panic Room costar: "It seems pretty obvious, but I think she could have a Jodie Foster career. By that I mean, just going from doing high-quality work—not necessarily big box office stuff—but doing quality work all the way from her late teens into middle-age adulthood ... You succeed by doing movies like that, because eventually, it's just about the work. Look at 21 Jump Street: Johnny Depp and Richard Grieco were both on the show. But Grieco does If Looks Could Kill [an execrable William Dear action-comedy]. Depp does Edward Scissorhands with Tim Burton. Now Johnny's one of the biggest movie stars in the world, and Richard Grieco hasn't had a career for fifteen years. So yeah, avoid the 'obvious' payday, because it's so true: Eventually, it's just about the work."
But is the work there for Stewart at a studio level? When Foster was still coming up, there were far more female-led dramas with mainstream budgets; these days, there are precious few. Certainly, she can rely on her Twilight mega-fame to go indie for a while—it's what Winslet did after Titanic—but the cycles of stardom churn much more quickly these days, and if Stewart really does want to be a movie star, the clock is ticking for her to leverage that Twilight clout to land another major role. (She was considered an early contender to reunite with Fincher for The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo—which would have made her the rare woman to lead two enormous franchises—but timing and Fincher's desire to cast a relative unknown conspired against her.)
The manager we spoke to thinks this is the time for Stewart to fight her indie instincts, if only to cement her future. "I actually might go in the opposite direction and say, 'Let's do something very commercial and see if all your Twilight fans show up.' If they don't, of course it's a problem. But if you don't at least try, you're just delaying the inevitable. At some point, you have to prove you can open a movie, because with franchise people, the question is always 'Outside of your franchise, can you pull your audience?' I mean, sure, there are some movies no one is going to go see, even if Leo DiCaprio is in it. But if you do something that's in your wheelhouse and if you can deliver your audience, you're set for life. That's what's called a 'movie star.'"
The Bottom Line: On the precipice of her next phase, Stewart's in an interesting predicament, albeit one that most actresses would kill to have. The tomboyish, intense actress is often compared to men like Johnny Depp and Leonardo DiCaprio, but she doesn't have access to the roles both actors got. At the same time, she's hunting for the sort of dramatic parts that foreign actresses historically hoard for themselves, but Stewart hasn't yet proven her range or fidelity with accents.
Though Stewart may have been spooked by the middling box office earned by Pattinson's attempt at non-Twilight success, Remember Me, it's time for her to make the mainstream leap. She flirted with Wanted 2 this year—an unexpected and somewhat encouraging sign that she's not utterly averse to big studio pictures—but Stewart doesn't have to don Angelina Jolie's stilettos to prove her commercial appeal. A lot of brainy, independent-minded directors are making genre flicks for the studios these days; why not team with one of them for a cerebral thriller or sci-fi flick? Those filmmakers want Stewart, the question is whether she wants them.
Buy/Sell/Hold: Buy if you own no shares (after all, we've still got two Twilight movies left to go), but hold if she's already in your portfolio.
Kristen In NYMag Star Market. Can the Indie-Minded Kristen Become a Box Office Star After Twilight Fades?
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Ha ha Definitely, to buy and to hold. After all, she gives quality performance every time. lol
I wish there was "Kristen stock", I'd retire in 30-40 years filthy rich...
As much as I love Kristen and support her and even respect her choices in movies, they are right :/
She's already set for life money wise. Kristen does not want to be a movie star. She repeated again how much she is inspired by Catherine Keener - supporting actress, not star. These would be calculated career moves stated by this manager. She has said she only chooses parts that really speak to her. If she's happy, then she will perform to the best of her ability, and the rest may come as a bonus like an Oscar or a hit movie. Both her and Rob are savvy, and I'm sure they've contemplated their future careers and other people's expectations. But what I admire them for is that they will not buckle to pressure and will remain true to themselves whether they be a movie star or a bit player.
The thing about Kristen is that she doesn't care if she's a so-called "movie star" with all the trappings that go along with it. She's definitely not the typical movie star, and if you try to compare her to other actresses that way, she may not seem like a success outside of Twilight to some people. But in my opinion, as long as she can continue to make movies that mean something to her, regardless of the box office numbers, that seems to be her version of success. She doesn't seem to care for the fortune and fame, she just wants to work, so as long as that's what she cares about, she will be successful by her own standards, which is what we all love about her in the first place, right? :) I think she's gonna be around for a while.
The anlysis of her future path seems good. However, Kristen is different than other normal Hollyword movie stars. She'd like to be a actress who's a story teller not a movie star. For her career path, I hope she could follow Jodie Foster or Meryl Steep. I don't think Kate Winklet is a good example for her. I alway think Kristen as a talented individual, I believe she can be success in other profesional field as well (e.g. writing). I would miss her if she lost her unique and authenticity along the way. But I think this would never happen cause she's a person who's truth to herself.
Hollywood people talk as if Kristen is cattle...Jeez...Look I do not know for sure what the future holds for Kristen but I hope she will be around making interesting movies. She brings variety that is much needed in the showbiz world that include overly made up and fake people. I cannot stand to have too many Kardashian's with their masks of plastered make up on their face without having Kristen around.
Hollywood Take: Ha! Hollywood is assuming that Kristen's fans are shallow and air headed. NOT! Kristen fans happen to love her personality, and see through what the paps and press misjudge as shy and withdrawn. It's called intelligence and not willing to be fake or phony, worrying that she will appear silly and actually taking the time to try not to. Her fans feel the same way. She is so much like we are. She doesn't come across like an uppity non approachable star. Well maybe to the paps but who cares what they think. We like her in all her movies and will back Kristen, not just Twilight, the movie that maybe made us aware of her. But after that we fell in love with Kristen the actress and the person. She has an emotional maturity well beyond her years and sees things most do not. The critics need to just back up. give Kristen a break and wait to see what she does instead of criticizing and analyzing her life. Kristen is a beautiful person inside and out.
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kristen is a serious actress, not necessarily the best there is out there right now but she's getting there slowly but surely. coz its not a question of how many serious movies you make, its a matter of stamping your name on it, where people will remember you and you alone. and that's how stars are made. they make this one movie that people will always remember not because of the story but because of a single actor's performance. and that's how you get your oscars too.
and frankly, i dont really care if she makes 100 indies and 2 blockbuster movies in her lifetime, its her acting that matters in the end. if she got the people's attention because of the blockbuster movie then great. im not counting twilight because we know its not about their acting at all, its about the phenomenon.
now if kristen is marketable, we can see she's getting a lot of offers right now. we just hope that she strikes a BALANCE in choosing films to keep her afloat. too much of one thing is not also good.
I don't believe Stewie is just Indie minded. She isn't. I have heard her talk about being very open to lots of possibilities. Like action films. Also theater. My fave KS film is Yellow Handkerchief. I love it.
Oh- if KS was a stock. Poor Stewie. I would buy. BD will be huge- like the other three. After the Saga, I would hold and support her as I do now. She's magic.
I find the article to have some valid points. She will have to be able to open a movie on her own in the future...and she needs to lighten up a bit on the red carpet and on talk shows. I am one of her biggest fans but at times it makes me uncomfortable watching her when she is interviewed. Find a way to calm the nervous tics and such. She has it ALL....I understand she is hounded but so are lots of others. I just get discouraged when the press always labels her as morose, or never smiles, etc. Her future is BRIGHT...but she still has to play the Hollywood game because it is a business...bottom line.
I guess its up to Kristen what movie roles she picks, and how she decideds to plan out her future!
I love that Kristen likes to play small roles, and gives indepentent films the chance at been released!
It shows that she understands, and acts not because of the money or the fame but because she wants to...
And I'd definatly buy and hold x
I believe that she follows her heart in her choice of projects, and so far, they have all been awesome! Don't change a thing Kristen, keep being true to yourself.
You go Girls!! Tell'em all!
It's K's life. Let her do what she wants. She's got the chops to go in any direction she wants to.
As long as she considers herself a success, that's all tht matters.
I'm a little pissed at the snarky comment about Rob. His "attempt at non-twilight success, Remember Me"
That is one of my all-time fave movies. It makes me cry everytime I see it. Pooh on them!!
"She never seems excited about what she's doing"? "She seems disinterested"? Has this reporter seen any interview with Kristen in the past year? Granted in the beginning years she minced words and was nervous, but to imply that she isn't happy about her projects is insulting. I have never heard an actor analyze and flush out their characters with such passion and dedication as I do when I hear Kristen talk of her various roles. She is such a thinker and passes on a real desire to get to know the characters she plays. Just because she's not telling funny set stories or cracking jokes, does not mean she's not enjoying herself. It's really seems to be about the work with Kristen.
Did anyone see the interview Oprah did with JK Rowling awhile back? They spoke about a piece they both saw on Michael Jackson and how he was always chasing the next phenomenon after Thriller and how he struggled to appreciate the success of it. They spoke about the pressure others put on them to have the next big thing or how people tell them they can never top their current successes. Jo expressed that she would be perfectly okay if she never had another book as successful as the Harry Potter series. That it doesn't make what she does next a failure if it's not as big as HP. She is content to not chase the next phenomenon. It made me think of the Twilight actors and SM. Anything they do that doesn't put up huge numbers seems to be deemed a failure. I thought Remember Me was heartbreakingly beautiful and while the Runaways was a little much for my "conservative" sensibilites, I was a huge Joan Jett fan when I was younger and I think Kristen NAILED it. It's just a shame that people are writing them off already and think that if Rob, Kristen & Taylor don't smash box office records or win Oscars after Twilight that they somehow fail. Just look at what the media did to and are still doing to the cast of Friends. Such a shame!!
The article was somewhat unfair in regard to TRA. We all know what a distribution SNAFU it was. I'm praying that WTTR is a ticket sale success this weekend.
We all know Kristen dances to the beat of a different drummer. I just hope I'm still around when she reaches 30. Que sera sera. I'm behind her in whatever path she chooses.
That article is very complimentary of Kristen. First they are comparing her talent wise to Leo and Johnny. Hundreds of actors would kill for that.
They know she is very very talented. That isn't her issue. They just don't know what she wants. (indie, commercial, both) But lets remember she's 20. Most people, actors included, don't know what they want at 20.
Also I see know reason for her to change her "ticks" in interviews. That would be like saying Rob should giggle or touching his hair less in interviews. It's who they are. One of things people enjoy about both of them is that they are genuine.
I also don't believe she has to "play the game". Ryan Gosling, Sean Penn, Jodie Foster, James Franco are actors that play by their own rules. But they are ridic talented so the roles come.
Bottom line is Kristen is one of the brightest young talents in hollywood critics and casting a like knows it. But they want to know what she wants from them.
I agree, I think she never set out to be a movie star. I think it actually HIGHLY turns her off. She set out to do work she can take pride in which is why she doesnt do two romantic comedies a year like most actresses her age do. And I HIGHLY respect her for it too. Big movies stars like that are annoying as hell!
Read the NY Times review on WTTR dated Oct. 28.
Overall it was good...however it says "Ms. Stewart twitches her way through too many scenes...a habit that may become difficult to shake. But she's exceptionally appealing on screen...."
She is so talented..and yes... we all support Kristen and her choices but Hollywood is still all business. If Twilight had not brought in the big money then this would be a different story.
@12:21
1. That's is 1 review, most reviews have said Kristen elevated this movie with a lesser script. Yes Kristen has a habit. A habit she is aware of as she herself has stated it. HOWEVER: that particular NYT's reviewer is known for being one of the most difficult and she still says Kristen is exceptional on screen.
2. No one is saying Hollywood is not a business but not all actors want commercial work. Plenty of actors work without being box office movie stars.
3. Twilight did happen. Kristen got a tremendous gift from this project, she is known. Which means she can decide what her career is. If that means she wants to do commercial work fine. But if she wants to return to indept film because that is where her heart is that is fine too.
Kristen worked right along before Twilight and I would bet she will do the same after it's over.
@12:21
1. That's is 1 review, most reviews have said Kristen elevated this movie with a lesser script. Yes Kristen has a habit. A habit she is aware of as she herself has stated it. HOWEVER: that particular NYT's reviewer is known for being one of the most difficult and she still says Kristen is exceptional on screen.
2. No one is saying Hollywood is not a business but not all actors want commercial work. Plenty of actors work without being box office movie stars.
3. Twilight did happen. Kristen got a tremendous gift from this project, she is known. Which means she can decide what her career is. If that means she wants to do commercial work fine. But if she wants to return to indept film because that is where her heart is that is fine too.
Kristen worked right along before Twilight and I would bet she will do the same after it's over.
This article has a very realistic approach to the entertainment industry and what drives it. And because it is the profession that both Kristen and Rob chosen to join, the rules do apply to them too. It is up to them if they want to follow these rules and play the game. I personally would like to see Kristen follow Jodie Foster's footsteps; she has the talent and smarts to reach Jodie's current stature in Hollywood today. As much as I want Kristen to follow her heart, she still has to balance her independent spirit with the quirks of Hollywood. Sean Penn, Johnny Depp and Jodie Foster have successfully done the balancing act and continue to reinvent themselves. I am quite confident that as Kristen matures more she will become quite adept at this balancing act herself. I will always support and admire whatever Kristen puts her mind and heart into because for me she is real and honest and true to her aspirations.
Who's going to stand by her after The Twilight Saga is done??? Well I know I AM--and I'm sure there are MANY MORE that will follow as well. She doesn't need to change a THING about her. I LOVE HER for who she is, the little flaws and all, that's what makes her so unique--she's not some shallow, airheaded, bimbo. Yeah, I know it's true I've never met her & may never have that HIGHLY incredible chance to, BUT, I don't need that to know what my gut instincts tell me about Kristen. UNPRETENTIOUS, that's one of my favorite things about her, she'll never fake her way through anything, doesn't ever have to! INTELLIGENT, she's definitely got A WHOLE LOT going on in that beautiful head of hers in the way of creativity, in acting, music, writing & she loves to read (like I do & always have). STRONG & INTENSE woman, doesn't do anything half-heartedly, but always with passion, devotion & hardwork and it shows (Bella, Joan Jett,Georgia, to name a few) Can't wait to see her @Mallory(WTTR), I trust she'll be amazing in it as always. She LIGHTS UP THE SCREEN in every movie she's ever done (which is what like 30 now?) from Panic Room on up, she's had something magical to offer in each one, & I treasure every DVD I own of hers! She loves her FAMILY, FRIENDS & PETS (esp.Jella). (Of course, I've saved THE BEST for last, LOL) MOST OF ALL, Kris LOVES her man ROB, & it shows--oh, it doesn't matter how much she may try to hide it from the world, she should probably just give up trying, cause she's not fooling any one of her devoted fans who pay attention. AND she never has to say a word about her private life either if she doesn't want to, that's fine w/me. It almost sounds cheesy anymore, but, she is GLOWING & is definitely A HAPPY WOMAN IN LOVE. I should know afterall, I am too!! Thanks Shaui, for letting me rant about Kristen--LUV&HUGS
Many of you well said!~ It's an interesting article and its analysis is oevrall fair. But Kristen is definitely not going to do in a traditional nor ccalculated way. She follows her actor's instincts and takes roles which appeal to her. A bit willful, yes. But I love her for her authenticity amd pure passion in acting. I will follow her career wherever she goes and whatever she does.
I want her to be happy and successful. Yes, I wish to see her become international mega star, have fans all over the world, draw box office, widely acclaimed by people in the business... However, I also want her to be comfortable and feel good for what she does. I believe she will succeed one day (the most ideal scenario is that she feels proud and simultaneously other people also recognize for what she does), not necessary following other people's path but creating her own path. She's insightful and intelligent like that so I have faith she could find such a balance.
p.s. Somewhere in the article uses "boylish" to describe Kristen. Not think so. Her femininity is just SO NOT in the typical Hollywood sense. I hate Hollywood monopolizing the definition of beauty.
Loyal fan,
Mon
As mudh as I like Kristen,just as you guys do. The article wasn't doubting her acting, but just saying if Kristen can't draw people in to watch her movies,directors may stop wanting to use her in their films.
She already has enough money to be able to do whatever the HELL she wants to do.
She could be a waitress if she wants to...........or just be barefoot and pregnant and raise Rob's babies.
She doesn't HAVE to do anything.
Must be nice to be that financially secure at 20!!! And yes, I think what actors get paid is ridiculous, cause there are so many in the world with nothing. Spread that money around!!
Exactly anon 4.29! I think that's the simplest way to say it. We all like kristen but she also needs to know how to play the game if we want to see more of her in the coming years. Its not about how good she is but how she puts her talent into good use that matters. I want to see her spread her wings, try different roles and always reinvent herself. I also hope she learns to break her twitching habits coz its very distracting and puts her off character coz people sees her like 'o that's very kristen!' and not the role shes playing.
Ok.
I find it interesting that we all probably don't work in the entertainment industry but many of us are telling someone who does and has done is quite successfully for just being 20, what she needs to do.
Again I know we are trying to be good fans but you cannot honestly think any of us are saying something Kristen or her team have not thought of before. Of course Kristen should vary her roles. So should Rob. So should any actor. This is not news.
Here's the truth. Tell me a 20 yr old female that is a box office draw. Exactly. The movie they make, i.e. a romcom may be a draw but they aren't. It takes years for an actor to build an audience that will say, oh that's a so and so movie I'll def check to his out.
Great article, very objective and a good reality check of what Kristen has to navigate professionally post-Twilight. She is a woman, and she's young, and those two qualities right there limits her in some ways in terms of access and opportunity.
ONe thing I've noticed again and again about Kristen and people's comparisons, is that she tends to be compared more to male actors before her in terms of what she's offering as a dramatic actress and a young actress. She was named "Jane Dean" post-Runaways often, because she's finding some very intriguing roles that just in such short supply for her gender and age.
It will be interesting as to what she chooses, and i think the suggestion at the end was a good one-mainstream doesn't have to be a dirty word anymore, when you have movies like Inception begin made by indie minded directors. Kristen could navigate a path similar to say, that Juno star, who has picked smartly with both mainstream and indie fare.
ps: one thing to remember, and I think the article is helpful, is that Kristen doesn't want to be a star, but she DOES want to be an actress. And how you are able to continue acting over the years, something that is hard to do honestly, is by making yourself commercially viable enough that you have the freedom to do indie films while still doing more mainstream fare that makes you relevant. So, I don't know, she's a big star now, there's no going back now in some ways.
I wonder how Kristen feels when we all claim our undying love and support of her and her career, but then TR only makes 4 million bucks?! Something's off here...If we really care about her future in Hollywood, wouldn't it make sense to go out and SEE the movies she makes outside the Twilight franchise? I know I will...!!!
Anon. 2:16 I agree with you in that fans who claim to love and support Kristen should go out and watch her movies, but a couple of the movies, like The Runaways, for instance, was not distribued properly. Not all of Kristen's fans live in Los Angeles, New York, Atlanta, etc., you know, big cities, or places that have theaters that showcase indie films. And it looks like WTTR will be limited as well. I had to see the The Runaways on DVD. If those who live in these big cities go out in large numbers and see her films, then maybe they'd get a second release in smaller cities and other countries so we can show our support as well.
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